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RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitla

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  • By Sofia | Thu, 2008-06-19 11:30

    !POR FIN! Someone I'm related to!

    Hola Ronnie.
    I didn't have time to stick more names that I had found, but now I will.
    We are related threw Cristobal but also his grandparents, Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Cristobal's father, Salvador Gutierres de Mendoza 1660. The information I found out about his family was, which you probably already have or you can also correct me if I'm mistaken, the parents of Juan were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio 1594 y Francisca Hurtado 1599. The parents of Francisco were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio y Ana Gonzalez Florida. Francisca's father was Rodrigo Olivares.
    Ana Camacho's parents were Silvestre Camacho 1585 y Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo 1589.

    Sophia> From: chilerey@msn.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:37:31 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tep> > > Hola Sophia ,how are you ? I am related to to Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza through his GrandParents (my ancestors) Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Manuel Munoz(de Nava) and Maria de San Juan (Martin )del Campo als my ancestors. There are probably more connections.> It seems that everybody from Los Altos area are related at least by 1 or 2 ancestors.> Ronnie Reynoso every bodies cousin from Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: sceleste_m@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:32:51 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, san Miguel el Alto and Lago de Moreno> > >
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    sandragomezenriquez

    17 years 3 months ago

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    New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo

    Hi Sophia,
    Don't be too surprised :-) -- I too descend from Francisco Gutierrez de Mendoza and Ana Gonzalez Florida. 
    I'll see if I can send you more info tonight.
    Saludos!

    Sofia

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo by sandragomezenriquez

    RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan,

    Hola Sandra,

    That would be great if you find anything more about them. I'm so excited now!

    Gracias!
    Sophia

    > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:56:21 -0700> From: sandragomezmendoza@yahoo.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitla> > Hi Sophia,> Don't be too surprised :-) -- I too descend from Francisco Gutierrez de Mendoza and Ana Gonzalez Florida. > I'll see if I can send you more info tonight.> Saludos!
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    gnzlzspd

    17 years 3 months ago

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    RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay

    Hi Sophia:

    Do you want another relative? I am a direct paternal line descendent of
    Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II, married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Juan was
    a brother to Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Que te parece prima?

    Iam sure, like Ronnie says, " if you are from Los Altos, you are probably
    related to the rest of us, we are all related"

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

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    !POR FIN! Someone I'm related to!

    Hola Ronnie.
    I didn't have time to stick more names that I had found, but now I will.
    We are related threw Cristobal but also his grandparents, Juan Gutirrez de
    Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Cristobal's father, Salvador Gutierres de Mendoza
    1660. The information I found out about his family was, which you probably
    already have or you can also correct me if I'm mistaken, the parents of Juan
    were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio 1594 y Francisca Hurtado 1599. The
    parents of Francisco were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio y Ana
    Gonzalez Florida. Francisca's father was Rodrigo Olivares.
    Ana Camacho's parents were Silvestre Camacho 1585 y Teresa Gonzalez de
    Hermosillo 1589.

    Rodriguez de Frias

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay by gnzlzspd

    New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo

    Hello primos,

    I thought it was a given that everyone from Los Altos descended in some way
    from Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II and Ana Gonzalez Florida II (La Vieja
    del Concilio). :) I know I do from several of my ancestors.
    My maternal grandfather (Ines Gonzalez) descends directly from Diego
    Gonzalez Rubio (Ana Gonzalez Florida II's brother), children of Francisco
    Gutierrez Rubio and Ana Gonzalez Florida I.

    Does anyone know the legend of Ana Gonzalez Florida II (La Vieja del
    Concilio)?

    Rick

    -----Mensaje original-----
    De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de John
    Gonzalez
    Enviado el: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:07 PM
    Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Re: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan
    de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitla

    Hi Sophia:

    Do you want another relative? I am a direct paternal line descendent of
    Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II, married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Juan was

    a brother to Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Que te parece prima?

    Iam sure, like Ronnie says, " if you are from Los Altos, you are probably
    related to the rest of us, we are all related"

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

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    !POR FIN! Someone I'm related to!

    Hola Ronnie.
    I didn't have time to stick more names that I had found, but now I will.
    We are related threw Cristobal but also his grandparents, Juan Gutirrez de
    Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Cristobal's father, Salvador Gutierres de Mendoza
    1660. The information I found out about his family was, which you probably
    already have or you can also correct me if I'm mistaken, the parents of Juan

    were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio 1594 y Francisca Hurtado 1599. The

    parents of Francisco were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio y Ana
    Gonzalez Florida. Francisca's father was Rodrigo Olivares.
    Ana Camacho's parents were Silvestre Camacho 1585 y Teresa Gonzalez de
    Hermosillo 1589.

    gnzlzspd

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo by Rodriguez de Frias

    New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo

    Hi Rick:

    You are almost right, but not everyone in Los Altos descended from Juan
    Gonzalez de Hermosillio. According to "Jalostotitlan a Traves de Los
    Siglos" there were other founding families in Los Altos besides the
    Gonzalez de Hermosillo, to mention just a few:

    Andres de Estrada Bocanegra y su esposa Luisa Flores de Rubí.
    Diego Alonso y su esposa Paula de Torres y su hermano Nicolas Ramirez
    Francisco Muñoz de La Barba.
    Juan y Blas Becerra.
    Diego Gonzalez y Polonia de Torres.
    Juan Jimenez de Castro
    Bernabe de Olivarez.
    Bernabe y Blas Ramirez.
    Juan Acevez
    Silvestre Camacho y su esposa Teresa de Hermosillo.
    and others...all of these just in Jalos.

    What is the legend of Ana Gonzalez Florida II? I have never heard of it.

    John Gonzalez
    =======================================================================================

    Hello primos,

    I thought it was a given that everyone from Los Altos descended in some way
    from Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II and Ana Gonzalez Florida II (La Vieja
    del Concilio). :) I know I do from several of my ancestors...

    Sofia

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay by gnzlzspd

    RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los

    Hola Primo!

    I am surprised, because of circumstances, my family was reduced to me and my brother and sister and now I actually have found PRIMOS. After looking and not finding this really makes me HAPPY!

    Sophia> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:07:29 -0700> From: 1gnzlz@verizon.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Re: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitla> > Hi Sophia:> > Do you want another relative? I am a direct paternal line descendent of > Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II, married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Juan was > a brother to Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Que te parece prima?> > Iam sure, like Ronnie says, " if you are from Los Altos, you are probably > related to the rest of us, we are all related"> > > John Gonzalez> Wildomar, CA.> 1gnzlz@verizon.net
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    mendezdetorres

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay by gnzlzspd

    RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los

    I descend from Juan González de HErmosillo about 11 times! -Daniel Méndez del Camino
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    Pat Silva Corbera

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los by mendezdetorres

    RE: RE: New names in my Mu

    My husband has the following direct line ancestry -

    Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (I do not have a spouse for this individual).
    Father of Ana Gonzalez married to Diego Sanchez-Carranza-
    parents of Ana Gonzalez de Hermosillo born abt 1631 and married to Luis Gonzalez Dominguez
    parents of Bernardo Gonzalez who married Josepha Sandobal Lorano (June 18 1680 in Nochistlan).

    >From this marriage I have two children Melchora Losano Gonzalez and Joseph Gonzalez Losano.

    Are these individuals members of the Gonzalez de Hermosillo family that you have been discusing?

    Thank you,
    Pat and Tino Corbera
    Tracy CA

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    From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@verizon.net>

    > Hi Sophia:
    >
    > Do you want another relative? I am a direct paternal line descendent of
    > Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II, married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Juan was
    > a brother to Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo. Que te parece prima?
    >
    > Iam sure, like Ronnie says, " if you are from Los Altos, you are probably
    > related to the rest of us, we are all related"
    >
    >
    > John Gonzalez
    > Wildomar, CA.
    > 1gnzlz@verizon.net

    gnzlzspd

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my Mu by Pat Silva Corbera

    RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay

    Hi Patricia:

    I would like to help you but the following is the only information that I
    have:

    Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II.
    their children: Melchor, Theresa, Maria, and Mariana. I have 1638 for
    Mariana's birth date, but no other information on her.
    I have not researched the children, except Melchor, from whom I descend in
    a direct paternal line.

    I wish I could help more. I am sure some other member of NR will come up
    with more and better information.

    John Gonzalez.
    ====================================================================================

    > My husband has the following direct line ancestry -
    >
    > Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (I do not have a spouse for this individual).
    > Father of Ana Gonzalez married to Diego Sanchez-Carranza-
    > parents of Ana Gonzalez de Hermosillo born abt 1631 and married to Luis
    > Gonzalez Dominguez
    > parents of Bernardo Gonzalez who married Josepha Sandobal Lorano (June 18
    > 1680 in Nochistlan).
    >
    >>From this marriage I have two children Melchora Losano Gonzalez and Joseph
    >>Gonzalez Losano.
    >
    > Are these individuals members of the Gonzalez de Hermosillo family that
    > you have been discusing?

    Pat Silva Corbera

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ay by gnzlzspd

    RE: RE: New names in my Mu

    Hi John,

    Thank you for your input... I'll keep checking ...

    Pat Silva Corbera

    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@verizon.net>

    > Hi Patricia:
    >
    > I would like to help you but the following is the only information that I
    > have:
    >
    >
    > Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Ana Gonzalez Florida II.
    > their children: Melchor, Theresa, Maria, and Mariana. I have 1638 for
    > Mariana's birth date, but no other information on her.
    > I have not researched the children, except Melchor, from whom I descend in
    > a direct paternal line.
    >
    > I wish I could help more. I am sure some other member of NR will come up
    > with more and better information.
    >
    > John Gonzalez.

    chilerey54

    17 years 3 months ago

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    RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lag

    Correct Prima
    Ronnie> From: sceleste_m@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:20:22 -0400> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitla> > > !POR FIN! Someone I'm related to! > > Hola Ronnie.> I didn't have time to stick more names that I had found, but now I will.> We are related threw Cristobal but also his grandparents, Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Cristobal's father, Salvador Gutierres de Mendoza 1660. The information I found out about his family was, which you probably already have or you can also correct me if I'm mistaken, the parents of Juan were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio 1594 y Francisca Hurtado 1599. The parents of Francisco were Francisco Gutierres de Mendoza Rubio y Ana Gonzalez Florida. Francisca's father was Rodrigo Olivares.> Ana Camacho's parents were Silvestre Camacho 1585 y Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo 1589.> > Sophia> From: chilerey@msn.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:37:31 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tep> > > Hola Sophia ,how are you ? I am related to to Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza through his GrandParents (my ancestors) Juan Gutirrez de Mendoza and Ana Camacho. Manuel Munoz(de Nava) and Maria de San Juan (Martin )del Campo als my ancestors. There are probably more connections.> It seems that everybody from Los Altos area are related at least by 1 or 2 ancestors.> Ronnie Reynoso every bodies cousin from Los Altos> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: sceleste_m@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:32:51 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, san Miguel el Alto and Lago de Moreno> > > > _________________________________________________________________> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE!> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/&gt; -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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    In reply to RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lag by chilerey54

    New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalo

    I read that she went crazy after her faced was deformed/burned... She's also listed as a ghost someplace.

    ??

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    Sofia

    17 years 3 months ago

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    Primo Ronnie!

    For what I am seeing we are the closest related by Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza.

    Tu Prima,
    Sophia
    > From: chilerey@msn.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:51:02 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] RE: RE: RE: New names in my Muñoz line:San Juan de los Lagos, Ayotlan, Jalost> > > Correct Prima
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    17 years 3 months ago

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    I just joined your group and am very interested in the line from Jalos. We share the same ancestors (and I agree that that would be the case for many from Jalos). The children mentioned of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzales Florida included Theresa who married Diego Flores de la Torre. Their daughter Juana married Tomas Martin del Campo. They had 9 children. Their daughter Cecilia married Jose Joaquin Gutierrez... These are my ancestors. I'm very pleased to meet others who have done some serious research in Jalos.

    I hope to join you when you meet again. I note that you are meeting today in Wildomar. I am looking forward to the next meeting.

    gnzlzspd

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to RE: RE: New names in my by egomezreyes

    New names in my

    Hi, egomezreyes:

    We had the meeting last month! I am sorry you missed it. I am sure we will
    have more in the future, just keep your eyes on this forum for the place and
    date.
    I have done some research in Jalos, mainly on the "Juan Gonzalez de
    Hermosillo" line I can trace my direct, paternal, ascendancy to his son
    Melchor, Theresa's brother.

    You can contact me directly if you wish.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

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    > in Wildomar. I am looking forward to the next meeting.

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